Debian is switching (back) to GLIBC

Five years ago Debian and most derivatives switched from the standard GNU C Library (GLIBC) to the Embedded GLIBC (EGLIBC). Debian is now about to take the reverse way switching back to GLIBC, as EGLIBC is now a dead project, the last release being the 2.19 one. At the time of writing the glibc package has been uploaded to experimental and sits in the NEW queue.

EGLIBC is dead for a good reason: the GLIBC development has changed a lot in the recent years, due to two major events: Ulrich Drepper leaving Red Hat and the GLIBC development, and the GLIBC steering committe self-dissolving. This has resulted in a much more friendly development based on team work with good cooperation. The development is now based on peer review, which results in less buggy code (humans do make mistakes). It has also resulted in things that were clearly impossible before, like using the same repository for all architectures, and even getting rid of the ports/ directory. Before we used to have two sets of architectures, the main ones in the glibc repository with architectures like x86, SuperH or SPARC, and the secondary ones in the glibc-ports repository with architectures like ARM or MIPS. As you can see the separation was quite arbitrary, and often leaded to missing changes on the secondary architectures. We also got real stable branches, with regular fixes.

The most important EGLIBC features have been merged to GLIBC, including for example the use of non-bash but POSIX shell, or the renaming of reserved keywords. The notable exception is the support for configurable components, which we originally planned to use for Debian-Installer, by building a smaller flavor using -Os and without NIS and RPC support. At the end we never worked on that, and it seems that the hardware targeted by Debian has grown faster than the GLIBC size, so that is not really a big loss. At the end, we ended up with only 5 missing patches from the EGLIBC tree:

The package names are unchanged (except the source package and the binary package containing the sources) so the transition is fully transparent for the users.

I would like to thank all the CodeSourcery employees who worked on EGLIBC, with a special thank to Joseph Myers who spent countless hours to merge the most important EGLIBC changes back to GLIBC, and sent regular emails about the merge status. I would also like to thanks all the people on the GLIBC side that made the change to happen, and all persons participating in the GLIBC development.

On configure systems

I will never understand the point of using autotools, cmake or whatever configure system, when later the code uses an hardcoded list of architectures to determine the size of a pointer... Unfortunately for porters this pattern is quite common.

Update: As people keep asking, the way to check for the size of a given type is explained in the autoconf manual. To check for the size of the pointer, the following entry has to be added to configure.ac:

AC_CHECK_SIZEOF(void *)

On a 64-bit system, this will lead to the following entry in config.h:

/* The size of `void *', as computed by sizeof. */ #define SIZEOF_VOID_P 8

Debian QEMU images updated

Following the release of Debian Wheezy, I have (finally) updated my set of Debian QEMU images for both Squeeze (6.0.8) and Wheezy (7.3). The following images are now available:

Each of these directories contains a GPG signed README.txt file with the md5sums all files, detailed instructions how to run these images and especially the minimum QEMU version to use.

The requirements to run the default desktop environment have increased a lot between Squeeze and Wheezy. An accelerated graphics card is now needed to be able to use Gnome (unless you use the fallback mode), which is not something provided by QEMU (actually there is now a QXL para-virtualized video card, but the driver is only in unstable). In addition GDM now needs more than 128MiB to start, while this is the default amount of memory provided for virtual machines. I have therefore decided to switch the default desktop environment on the Wheezy images to Xfce and the display manager to LightDM. Both Gnome and GDM are still installed on the images, and the original default can easily be restored using the following commands:

  • update-alternatives --auto x-session-manager
  • echo /usr/sbin/gdm3 > /etc/X11/default-display-manager

Beside this the new images only contain minor changes. The filesystems have been tweaked to not run fsck after a certain amount of days, and locales-all and openssh-server are now installed in all images. For MIPS and MIPSEL, 64-bit kernels are now also installed and provided, so that it is possible to choose between a 32-bit or a 64-bit kernel (see the README.txt for more details).

There is no Debian Wheezy SPARC image available, as QEMU does not fully support SPARC64 yet (it is actually possible to run it, but then the VM crashes often), and Debian Wheezy now only supports 64-bit kernels. I will also invest time to build an S390X image, but so far I haven't been successful on that.

The following images are still available at the same location, though they haven't been updated:

  • sparc (Etch)
  • SH4 (Sid from a few years ago)

Detecting code issues using multiple architectures

Sometimes building the same code on multiple architectures is useful to detect horrors like:

ExEnv::err0() << sprintf("AtomInfo: invalid name: %s\n",name.c_str());

This code builds using -Werror=format-security with only a few warnings onmost architectures, while GCC is correctly detects the issue on some others.

This has been reported as bug#728249.

How multiarch adds new RC bugs...

# dpkg --add-architecture kfreebsd-amd64
# dpkg -i libc0.1-dev_2.13-32_kfreebsd-amd64.deb
Selecting previously unselected package libc0.1-dev.
(Reading database ... 446113 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libc0.1-dev (from libc0.1-dev_2.13-32_kfreebsd-amd64.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing libc0.1-dev_2.13-32_kfreebsd-amd64.deb (--install):
  trying to overwrite '/usr/include/_G_config.h', which is also in package libc6-dev 2.13-32
dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
  libc0.1-dev_2.13-32_kfreebsd-amd64.deb

Before multiarch the bug was not existing, and of course none of libc6-dev and libc0.1-dev are marked as Multi-Arch: something. People wanting to delay the release of Wheezy, I am sure you can find much more RC bugs like that.

10 years ago...

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:22:10 +0000
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Performances of open-source Radeon driver

I am the happy owner of a new netbook with an AMD Fusion E-450 APU, which includes a Radeon graphics card. I am using the open-source driver on it, that is a 3.2-rc7 kernel for KMS, and xserver-xorg-video-radeon package from sid. I have to say I am not really happy about the performances.

No I don't speak about the graphical performances that are pretty good (especially compared to my Intel Atom N450 based previous netbook) but about the power consumption. With this setup and with the original battery I get 2h30 of autonomy. Switching to UMS and adding some power management options in xorg.conf improves it to 2h40, but breaks suspend to ram/disk (a pity for a netbook) and switch between VT. I then tried the non-free fglrx driver, it also suffers from the suspend to ram/disk issue, in addition to crashing xorg when playing videos... On the other hand I get an impressive 3h30 of autonomy, and additionally a silent netbook (contrary to the open-source driver, the fan doesn't spin at idle).

I have tried plenty of options, ranging from adding some power management options to xorg.conf, to passing dynclks=1 to the radeon module, including setting /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power\_method to dynpm. Right now I have worked around the issue by buying a bigger battery which brings me 5h30 of autonomy, but I would really appreciate any software way to improve it with the open-source driver.

Debian s390x port (aka 31 bits is not enough)

During Debconf 11, I got access to a fast s390 machine, and I have started to work on a Debian s390x port, the 64-bit version of the s390 port. One of my goal was to help the SPARC64 port, as some of the issues are the same: both are 64-bit big-endian, don't support unaligned access and behave differently between -fpic and -fPIC.

Why such a port?

When talking about 64-bit ports, we usually hear: "4GB is enough, handling 64-bit takes more memory". This really sounds like "640K ought to be enough for anybody". The s390 port is actually 31-bit from the address point of view (one bit is reserved for address space extension from 24 to 31 bits), so each process is limited to 2GB only. Nowadays applications which need more than 2GB are not that uncommon, especially on mainframes. Actually the 2GB limit already causes some problem in Debian: in some cases it's not possible to build haskell applications or even C applications using GCC. On the other hand, we already require a 64-bit kernel on the s390 port (only the userland is 32-bit), and applications are handling more and more 64-bit or greater values (files offset, time counters, uid, etc.).

What is the status?

Bootstrapping the architecture was not really easy (as for any other new architectures), due to a huge amount of dependencies and build-dependencies loops, as explained by Wookey during Debconf11. Now that this part is mostly done, an autobuilder has been started and currently more than 65% of the packages are built. The s390x port is hosted on debian-ports.org. Unfortunately it is not yet deboostrapable, though that should happen in the next few days (only a few packages are missing).

The main issues are currently packages which fail to build from source due to linker, gcc-4.6 and curl changes, or due to the libjpeg and multiarch transitions, and thus are not directly related to s390x. If your package is in this case, it would be a good idea to fix it. Otherwise if it has a lot of reverse dependencies and the bug is opened for a while, just expect an NMU (as allowed by the 0-day NMU policy). Of course for a few packages s390x specific fixes are needed, some of them are already in the BTS.

How can you help?

The list of bugs blocking the s390x port is available through the s390x usertag, fixing these bugs (a lot of them are general FTBFS) would help a lot. Alternatively if you have access to an s390x machine you can take a look at the packages failing to build.

Update: Fixed the explanation about the 32th bit, thanks to Bastian Blank for the comment.

Debian and the ARM hype

Thanks to the versatility of the Linux kernel, Debian has always been known for supporting a large number of architectures. It has also often been criticized for that as it is said to slow down the development of Debian.

Among these architectures, the ARM one was considered dead a few years ago, and some people wanted to get rid of it. Today all major distributions now have an ARM port, one of those distributions being even based on Debian. It seems Debian was right.

Now that Android has been ported to MIPS, we may see more and more MIPS based devices. Will the same scenario happen again?

bindv6only=1 and GNU/kFreeBSD

A few months ago the netbase package started to install the /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf file to switch the default bindv6only value from 0 to 1.

A lot of people are not happy with this change, but it is not my goal to give my opinion here. On the other hand, people have propagated the rumour that it has been done as the FreeBSD kernel, used in the kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 ports of Debian, only supports the mode corresponding to 1.

Let's give the truth:

  • GNU/kFreeBSD people haven't been contacted about this decision;
  • The FreeBSD kernel can support both modes through the net.inet6.ip6.v6only sysctl. However contrary to the Linux kernel it defaults to 1;
  • This option is available in the FreeBSD kernel since 2001, and in the Linux kernel since 2003.